Another Cheap Android Phone - £79.99

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Re: Another Cheap Android Phone - £79.99

Postby andrewW » May 31st, 2011, 4:30 pm

Found another little anomaly! With the latest version of Tunein Radio (v3) any presets saved are deleted on power down. This is not the case on my GT. I have had to revert to an older version of Tunein (1.5) :?

btw no Flash either!

@Mitre: Copilot on 2.2 takes about a minute to locate sats. I have installed GPSopt but not sure if that helps or not!
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Re: Another Cheap Android Phone - £79.99

Postby Fonefixer » May 31st, 2011, 4:33 pm

The gps seems to be crappy on all versions when trying to get a lock.
A trick I use is to delete and renew the agps data before using the nav. Seems to get a lock in under 5 seconds. I use a prog called "gps test" available free from the market.
If anyone wants any froyo files pm me and ill send you the links.
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Re: Another Cheap Android Phone - £79.99

Postby andrewW » May 31st, 2011, 5:03 pm

Fonefixer wrote:The gps seems to be crappy on all versions when trying to get a lock.
A trick I use is to delete and renew the agps data before using the gps. Seems to get a lock in under 5 seconds. I use a prog called gps test.


Our man of Kent is right of course :D I ran gps test, it found 7 sats within 10 seconds, opened Copilot and I was locked immediately :)

Mod Edit: I edited my own crap spelling in the quote! (Blast you predictive text!) :lol:
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Re: Another Cheap Android Phone - £79.99

Postby Fonefixer » May 31st, 2011, 5:43 pm

Wonder who that was then ?..... :oops:

I have no idea why the android gps system doesnt delete/renew or overwrite the agps data properly. Its something that needs looking into as its happening on a wide variety of handsets / android versions.

Tomtom sat navs, for example, download the ephemeris data via GPSFix files and overwrites/renews it correctly. Seems odd that the tomtom firmware is also based on linux and it works flawlessly.
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Re: Another Cheap Android Phone - £79.99

Postby Scope » May 31st, 2011, 6:52 pm

FOR THE ATTENTION OF FONEFIXER and ANDREWW

This caught on a forum today
The Apollo GPS Issue. I Spoke to Samsung.
Hi All,

I have the GPS Issue - where it randomly just doesn't work. 2.1 stock firmware on i5800.

I've only had it a couple of days and have been doing various tests. I spoke to Samsung, who admit that 2.2 resolves some issues.

I initially got fobbed off with "you can swap it and I guarantee (?!) you wont get another with the same issue" - I told him I had another one exactly the same in my other hand (my gf's) demonstrating the same issues (silly man). I also referenced all these forums with other people struggling. Even suggested I could waltz into carphone warehouse who would update it to 2.2 for me...! haha I didn't accept this and carried on.

I reminded them that it's only officially out on Orange, which he acknowledged and said that in about a week the rest of the unlocked phones out there will be updateable via Kies (he made his own enquiries via some other "head office" support line, while I stayed on the phone). I've got the guys name and a case reference number and I'll be following it up and not letting it go. (obviously at the moment - "not fit for purpose" etc)

In the meantime, I've noticed that if you leave the GPS radio on, restart the phone, and LEAVE it switched on, the GPS works very nicely thankyou in tests and various apps. Once you start turning it off and on again it becomes flaky then doesnt work and you have to restart the phone again.

Hope that helps someone. Comments welcome.

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Re: Another Cheap Android Phone - £79.99

Postby Fonefixer » May 31st, 2011, 7:13 pm

Yes. I've seen that it was also posted on the Samsunguk Facebook page. Unfortunately its been a lot longer than a week and still no official update.
Samsung seem to be holding out hoping customers get fed up with asking for froyo but its not gonna happen.
They are getting literally thousands of emails and calls each day complaining about the lack of froyo and would seem to be getting desperate and are giving out false info to repair centres now as well.
Not good!
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Re: Another Cheap Android Phone - £79.99

Postby andrewW » May 31st, 2011, 7:34 pm

Despite all that, I now have a rooted JPM Froyo thanks to FF :D

SFSG :geek:
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Re: Another Cheap Android Phone - £79.99

Postby Fonefixer » May 31st, 2011, 8:13 pm

Andrew: let me know how you get on with jpm. If you experience issues you may have to flash jpf including the bootloader first before flashing jpm. This will update the kernel version amongst other things.
However, as I previously said, bootloader flashing can be dodgy and you will have no way to rescue it if it dies as you will lose the ability to access download mode.
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Re: Another Cheap Android Phone - £79.99

Postby Mitre » May 31st, 2011, 8:20 pm

hi fonefixer just sent pm
if it all goes wrong can the phone be rescued with ADB to push the firmware or if you loose bootloader thats it you have a brick?
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Re: Another Cheap Android Phone - £79.99

Postby Fonefixer » May 31st, 2011, 8:50 pm

The files I send out can't hard-brick it as no bootloader is flashed. I'll pm you the links to the firmwares first thing in the morning as hrh is on the pc atm.
Adb can't rescue it if it goes wrong. Odin can though.
Do you want rooted jpm or non rooted jpf?
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