Extreme is slow for web and Youtube & iPlayer

[cantisque]

A technicality, but allowing you to "view videos on the web" is technically correct. It doesn't mention that it will not work properly with sites that are bogged down with heaps of additional script.
In theory, if you embedded the Flash JWPlayer into a blank web document, it should work without an issue, and probably the same for sites that don't use heavy themes and scripts.
This is just me guessing though, I can't try it myself until I get my Extreme back from Ebuyer.

[ricky712]

@brilliantben not usually a penny pincher but more to the fact I was seeing if I am looking at the same tablet. If you mean the one priced at £249.60, then yes it does look very appealing. But then, you could look at the iPad 2 being only a little more than the Xoom and so on...

It is tempting, but I'm trying to reel myself in here.

The reason I went for an Extreme is to have a 10" tablet under the 200 mark. And I still think it has a lot of bang for its buck. I think we also have to keep grounded that it is a new tablet and I'm sure revisions, updates will certainly improve the tablet.

I'm sure if we look at the market, we will see the cost of tablets really driven down over the next 18 months.

I think I'm gonna try and hang in.

[neilleeds]

A technicality, but allowing you to "view videos on the web" is technically correct. It doesn't mention that it will not work properly with sites that are bogged down with heaps of additional script.
In theory, if you embedded the Flash JWPlayer into a blank web document, it should work without an issue, and probably the same for sites that don't use heavy themes and scripts.
This is just me guessing though, I can't try it myself until I get my Extreme back from Ebuyer.

That's some technicality, "view videos on the web" as long as it's not from an actual website.

[cantisque]

The majority of Flash on the web should display properly. I'm going to guess that the desktop-based iPlayer page and player are too much for the tablet to handle due to lack of optimisation.
Personally, I'd rather Flash be available, as opposed to them not including it because it won't work properly on some things, which happened on older devices.
Try playing a movie from a simpler site like Retrojunk (random example) and see if it suffers the same issues. If it does, then I would be more inclined to agree that it is a rather big issue, rather than it just being a problem specifically with BBC.

[neilleeds]

Personally, I'd rather Flash be available, as opposed to them not including it because it won't work properly on some things, which happened on older devices.

That is fine but they cannot sell it as working if it does not. It may be fixed in an update but at the minute it does not work. If they fix the issues it will be a decent tablet for the price but since many are stating they will return it there is clearly work to be done before it lives up to it's promises.

[cantisque]

Again, you have to consider that perhaps the content provider is to blame.
It's like me blaming my laptop for not playing Minecraft very well, even though it's the developers fault for not optimising it for the IGP.
If the BBC's site and player were not so bloated, probably from DRM-related script and unnecessary checks, it would probably work fine.

[neilleeds]

Again, you have to consider that perhaps the content provider is to blame.
It's like me blaming my laptop for not playing Minecraft very well, even though it's the developers fault for not optimising it for the IGP.
If the BBC's site and player were not so bloated, probably from DRM-related script and unnecessary checks, it would probably work fine.

As far as I am away IPlayer works fine on other tablets, someone mentions it working on the Excel so there appears to be no need to remove the "bloat" you refer to if it even exists. No matter how much you excuse it Storage Options can not claim it works with web video if it doesn't work with IPlayer since they are a UK company and IPlayer is probably the number 1 source of such content for UK users.

[cantisque]

Does it work in the same way on the Excel though? I was under the impression that you had to modify the build.prop to fake it being a different phone, in order to get the app to work.
Which is the next point, the phones and tablets that do work fine with iPlayer all use the app, not the desktop version of the site.
Does the same problem happen for every browser? I only tested it in the stock browser for around a few minutes and had no problems.

[Freggles]

Remember none of these streaming services are officially supported, so it isn't necessarily a dealbreaker if it wasn't part of the deal to start with .

If you want to stream stuff to a big TV over HDMI, nothing beats an HTPC for that. For around £350 you can get one that plays all the latest games and chews through every type of video service and format imaginable. Proper Dolby and DTS sound over HDMI as well .

I got the Extreme to augment what I already have, as opposed to replace it. For example, I can use it for social networking and web browsing while I am full-screen in either a movie or a game, or sit in bed with it if I need to check something without going on the desktop.

So yeah, I'm not fussed if these media services don't work because I didn't buy it for that. What they have advertised it to do, it does well, so no point moaning about it not doing things it wasn't meant to do . The only video service it claims to support is Youtube, which does indeed work fine.

It says it can smoothly stream video in HD, so it should be able to do that in more than one case.

It's like saying a computer advertised as being able to use the internet is only meant to do wikipedia since they only specifically mention that one website.

I can browse and check email on my phone, what I want is something to stream video on when I'm on the move that doesn't cost an arm and a leg or take up a lot of space - something like what the Extreme says on the website it can do.

[cantisque]

It says it can smoothly stream video in HD, so it should be able to do that in more than one case.

It's not the same. The GPU has specific optimisations for decoding specific video formats. Flash players in the browser are likely not being offloaded onto the GPU and instead are only utilising the CPU. Is it possible someone could check the CPU usage while using iPlayer?